I messed up my sleep schedule bingeing Jess’s content and honestly, no regrets. There’s just something about the way she says hi all winky, like you already know you’re about to have a stupid goofy grin on your face for hours. Her posts feel like you’re in on a private joke. She’s cute, yeah, but not try-hard—like if your gamer crush snuck you nudes tucked in your DMs between rounds. Super natural, super her. It’s weirdly addictive.

She’s absurdly active. Swear I blink and there’s already new stuff. It’s not just half-baked selfies either. She goes for pics with actual personality, and gets creative with the flirty texts. Like, she’ll tease about what she won’t post for free, and the paywall’s honestly worth the leap because that’s the hottest stuff anyway. Everything looks like it’s actually for fans, not just churning for cash. It’s a wildly chill flex.

DM replies—no nonsense about a “team,” it’s literally Jess. You message her and she fires back fast, which feels wild given how many people must be in her inbox. She remembers dumb things you say, tries little dares, cracks up at your typos. It makes the whole thing stupidly personal. Plus, she doesn’t do cookie cutter stuff, she listens. She’s not afraid to be bratty or extra sweet or lowkey spicy depending how you talk. Half the reason I check in is honestly to just wreck her at Mario Kart, and the other half is the selfies after she loses (she’s surprisingly bad at Rainbow Road).

She stands out because nothing feels forced or awkward or fake. Her photos always look like someone just snapped them hanging out, but then two seconds later she’ll look back at the camera and you’re like oh. That’s deliberate. People call it amateur, but there’s a real weird art to making it feel this easy. She’s fun, she’s wild, and every day’s a bit different. Kinda love that, actually. Wouldn’t swap her chatty chaos for anything tame.

You know when someone says they’re shy but then you see that little spark in their eyes, like they’re thinking up something kind of risky? That’s exactly the feeling you get with Avarosabella. First few pics, she’s got this almost old-school natural beauty, all messy hair and zero try-hard face. It’s Florida sunshine but with real softness. I swear, her skin looks so smooth you’d honestly want to reach through the screen and see if it’s real. She’s got that super tight waist thing going, but the way she carries herself? Not hyped, not fake, just actual confidence buried under a layer of “holy crap, am I really doing this?”

Stuff drops every single day, no joke. And not just one or two lazy shots either. Sometimes it’s like she’s up at 2 a.m. snapping new pics or voice notes. Feels like you’re talking to someone who checks her phone too much when she’s supposed to be sleeping. I messaged her and she answered so fast, thought I was getting punked. If you say something dumb or weird, she’s not gonna ice you out though. She’s all in on the “clingy” thing, kept asking for pics back and honestly? I kind of liked it. Cute and a little possessive in a way that makes you feel wanted, not annoyed.

She’s not doing those cringey poses or anything too try-hard. It’s more fun, curious, like she wants to see what she can get away with. Some days she’s showing off that 100% natural body, other days she’s totally giggle mode but still making it sexy somehow. Videos feel like you snuck into her room and she’s laughing at something dumb on TikTok before remembering you’re watching. Random angles, silly faces, quick smiles. Everything feels like “I just turned 18 and wow, this is all new.” Never comes off bored.

I don’t sub to a bunch of creators in this category, but she actually stands out. There’s no spam, no copy-paste anything. If you want someone who’s putting her own weird little spin on stuff, not just lining up to fit in, she’s totally it. Real personality, zero filter, and she’ll probably spam your DMs with clingy little notes until you give in and chat back. You can tell she’s still figuring it all out, but that’s exactly what makes it so good.

First message I got from Mia was basically her blasting down the fourth wall in a shower of sparkles and giggles. Not even exaggerating, she’s got this way of making you feel like the luckiest person in her notification bar. Not fake enthusiasm, not too much sugar—just funny, weirdly sweet, very herself. It’s like she’s challenging you not to smile at your phone, and good luck with that. I caved immediately.

The cuteness is one thing, but her confidence is off the charts. Tons of creators copy-paste the same coy stuff, but Mia actually feels like she’s brand new and loving every wild minute. She posts a lot, not stingy at all. Sometimes twice a day, usually pretty casual, no crazy lighting or expensive sets. Honestly, that’s what makes her stand out. It feels super personal, like she’s sending you snaps from her bedroom, not trying to force glamour where it doesn’t belong. I actually appreciate the awkward angles and giggly bloopers. Makes her seem super real and way more interesting than all the smooth, polished wannabes.

Yeah, her red hair is fake-TikTok legend status. When she rocks those little pigtails, warning, you might just melt into a puddle. She’s got freckles, wears thrift store shirts sometimes, and her style is part dorky, part that girl you had a crush on in high school but never talked to. NSFW is front and center, but it never feels gross. It’s kind of shy, kind of bold, sometimes silly. One time she sent a DM that was almost a dare, with this wink that hit harder than anything X-rated. Her personality blasts through all the pics and even the spicier videos (which, btw, pretty frequent and always playful).

She responds to almost everything, which is wild for how fast she’s blowing up. Didn’t get a copy-paste once—not even when I asked the same, slightly dumb question as everyone else. If you want the try-hard supermodel experience, skip it, but for genuine chaos-teen charm and a feed that never gets boring… Mia’s basically running the show. She makes scrolling feel less like lurking and more like you’re in on the secret. Even though a million others probably feel the same, she’s got that thing that makes you hope she remembers your name. Worth every cent.

The first thing that kinda smacked me in the face about itsbabyybella is how she somehow nails that messy-girl-next-door thing while looking like she spends no time at all trying hard. There’s always at least one goofy meme post wedged between the thirst traps, and if you think she’s gonna just dish out the same pose and filter every day, nope. Stuff feels spontaneous, sometimes blurry in the best way, like she just grabbed her phone and thought “yep, this will send someone’s brain into orbit.”

Here’s the deal, the feed never gets stale. I’ve seen her jump from cute sock pics to something that looks like she’s about to prank her followers with pizza in her bed. Actual pizza, not a weird euphemism. It’s funny and a little chaotic, and somehow you end up kinda rooting for her even if you just came for the usual reason. She posts all the time—like, I don’t know when she sleeps—so there’s always something fresh. Even when it’s just a quick, messy pod shot, it still feels a little personal, not manufactured.

Half the charm is how Bella just straight up acts her age. There’s no trying to be super mature or moody about it, which is honestly rare for the teen tag. She teases nonstop on stories, never misses a DM (I actually got a reply that made me nearly snort my drink), and she’s got this way of making even a lazy pajama mirror selfie seem like the most exciting thing she could have sent. She’ll mess with trends one minute, then roast herself the next. Pure Gen Z chaos and I mean that as a big compliment.

Got kind of hooked, not gonna lie. There are a million accounts out there with cute faces but most of them feel like they’re copy-pasting whatever earned the most tips last week. Bella keeps it silly, chats back, spams spicy pics and includes everyone in her wild little world. If you even kind of like flirty weirdness and don’t want to scroll through the same staged stuff, she’s low-key a must. Just don’t blame me if you accidentally spend twenty minutes looking at her sock selfies instead of doing something productive. It happens.

First video I saw, Kylie had this messy shirt half falling off, hair in her face, looking like she just woke up and honestly? I bought it. You know how some girls try being cutesy and just look annoying? She’s not that. She’s got this sweet awkwardness, like she doesn’t even know how hot she is yet or maybe she does and just thinks it’s funny. Her laugh got me too, not fake at all, just like she caught herself doing something a little too bold and loved the chaos.

Kylie goes hard with new stuff every day. Not some lazy once-a-week thing, but actual effort. I kinda expected her stuff to be just selfies and that would be fine honestly, but she’s out here dropping stripped down videos, teasing you with her dumb little smirks, acting like she’s still not sure what she’s doing but then being super daring. It’s hilarious and crazy hot at the same time. She’ll trip over her words, then throw in a wink to save it like it never happened, makes you wanna tip her just for being gutsy.

The way she talks to people? Stupid friendly, in a lowkey brat way. You tip her, she talks right to you. Like actually says your name, says something so random you gotta smile. Feels like FaceTiming somebody’s little cousin’s friend who suddenly got way too sexy and you have no idea when that happened. Kinda can’t believe she’s real, let alone this chill. She takes requests too, not all shy or judgy about it, and actually seems to have fun messing around.

Honestly there are so many teens trying this and most of them fade in weeks but Kylie’s way different. Genuine, fearless, zero burnout, and impossible to ignore once you’re in. She’s this tiny chaos machine who totally owns being the new girl, and actually makes your day better. If I had to call out a fave, 100% hers. All killer, no cringe.

First thing I noticed? Every message from her feels like it’s literally waiting for you before you even hit send. She’s all exclamation mark energy and smiley faces, but it doesn’t feel fake or forced. Super chatty, quick with replies, and she’ll joke around if you joke back. I kinda love that she’ll just call out random things in your photos, like “lol is that a pizza or a cat in the corner?” Little things like that.

Big points for her being actually new, totally 19, and acting like it (in a good way). The whole page is like someone’s private camera roll after a fun sleepover. Not super-polished, nothing stiff, just cozy, spontaneous stuff. Weird poses, goofy faces, the occasional mirror shot with her phone charger tangled around her arm. The kind of feed that feels like she left her front door open and you just wandered in, but she’s cool with it.

You can tell she’s really doing this herself. It’s not like, professional studio light and a million edits. Half the time her covers are just blurry screenshots. I keep thinking “dang this is exactly how my DMs looked three years ago,” which is honestly hard to find now. The little stories and daily updates are all over the place. Like one hour she’s showing off her outfit, next hour, she’s dancing terribly in her kitchen, then suddenly she’s answering a random question about whether she’d fight a duck. The randomness makes it way more fun.

She posts a lot, seriously a lot. Once I woke up and found like five new things, and I’m like does she sleep or just hang out online all day. Sometimes you get stuff that’s a little awkward, like she’s lowkey embarrassed, and that just makes it better. Feels honest. Not even trying to be perfect. If you like messy hair, messier jokes, and a million silly selfies, she’s kinda the best one out there right now. I hate saying “authentic” but whatever, you’ll see what I mean after a day or two. Totally addictive in a “one more post before I do anything else” way.

The first thing that hit me was how wild Brianna is with her messages. Not just the cut and paste stuff you always run into, I mean actually talking, kinda flirty but sorta bratty in a way that feels like she’s figuring out just how far to push. She’s always online too, like actually responds pretty quick, with little personal touches that make it feel not fake. The chats go off the rails real fast if you want them to. Felt almost dangerous but in the best way possible. Definitely not for shy types.

Her pics and vids look damn fresh, and it’s not just some recycled angles. She’ll toss in some silly snaps between all the heat which had me laughing and yeah, ogling at the same time. Style’s messy and playful, not staged to death. Kinda like you’re sneaking peeks at a friend’s camera roll except it keeps getting filthier every time you check.

She actually does b/g stuff which is rare for this age range, and it feels less like she hired some random dude and more like, well, like you’re in on something real. There’s mistakes and nervous bits, little giggles, all of it looks like it’s actually her living life not just putting on a show for strangers. Goofy, a bit over the top, no one’s gonna accuse her of being subtle. That’s exactly why it works though.

If you tip her she bumps your messages and she doesn’t pretend otherwise, which honestly I respect the hustle, plus she actually follows through so the stream of attention never dries out. Every day there’s something new in the inbox, sometimes a bunch. Never repeats herself much. There’s a few random customs too if you wanna throw cash at her for something particular. Feels a little like a wild groupchat where anything goes, only you don’t have to fake-laugh at your friend’s dumb jokes. She’s young, bold, more than a bit chaotic, and honestly it’s that chaos that makes her legit fun to follow.

First thing I remember is the way Kacy looks you dead in the eye, like she wants you to blush right through the screen. She’s not pretending at the whole “innocent” thing, just uses her bump and her smile to make everything 10x more flirty than I was ready for. There’s that little playful edge in every message, even when she’s just half-posing with her phone. It’s wild how she makes “I’m bored and chilling with my baby belly out” feel like an invitation to the best secret club.

I gotta say, it’s not just the hot factor. The stuff she posts actually feels recent and real, like she set her phone down for a quick pic between appointments or whatever. The new content is always dropping way more often than I expected and sometimes I actually catch myself checking in a little too much, just to see if anything new is up (no shame). She’s chatty too, drops replies that are more than emojis, asks weirdly specific questions, even joked with me on a Tuesday about Taco Bell cravings. It really doesn’t feel like she’s copying-pasting anything.

She’s got the whole “I’m 20 and glowing but also needy as hell” thing down. That mix of wanting attention and giving it right back is honestly so addictive. The way she plays up her playful side, teasing just enough but always gives some kind of surprise—sometimes with a tongue out, sometimes barely hiding a giggle—makes you wanna see what she’s going to post tomorrow. Some creators just recycle the same old shots, but she changes it up, like, a lot. Different tops, different rooms, weird little toys she tosses in. Always some new pose I didn’t know was possible with a bump that size.

Not even gonna pretend, this page’s got a fun, real chaos that you just don’t get everywhere, especially in the “teen” section where a lot of accounts feel super fake or just flat. Kacy’s stuff makes you actually care if she’s having a good day. You end up rooting for her and, yeah, lowkey crushing on her too. I keep coming back because it kind of feels like having a wild, slightly bratty little secret with someone down the street. She keeps it spicy and totally unpredictable, and that’s rare as hell.

The first thing that tripped me up with lilbillie was her photos don’t look like they belong to someone who’s trying to impress anybody. It’s not all dolled up or pretending to be super grown. She’s just out there, half in her own world, sometimes with a random snack or some messy hair and a slightly crooked grin. Total chaos in the cutest possible way. Half the time I’m not even sure what she’s about to do next, but it keeps me glued for that split second before she moves onto the next thing.

She doesn’t spam out pics every two hours or whatever, and honestly I kind of like that. When she drops new stuff, it feels real—not just constant filler to fill a feed. There’s always this feeling like she just snapped something between doing all her normal life stuff. None of that super staged look. She’ll send a little voice message sometimes, like rambling about what she’s eating or why she’s ignoring her assignments. It’s such a random comfort, almost like she forgot you’re there and then suddenly remembers you are.

She’s 18 and she really acts like it, never pretending to be more sure of herself than she actually is. The awkward, “still figuring it out” thing? It’s everywhere, but it’s weirdly charming. Sometimes she’ll answer a message like you’re best friends, sometimes you’re just left on read. She’s upfront about picking and choosing that stuff, not pretending to be someone’s personal genie, and I respect that. Feels way less fake than most out there.

I wouldn’t call her feed “perfect” (whatever that even means). It’s weird and honest and sometimes just plain offbeat, but it’s got way more heart than any overly glossy page. That’s what makes her stand out—the unpredictability, the bits of real life showing around the edges, the kind of stubborn way she picks who gets a piece of her day. If I wanted polished, I’d go somewhere else. She’s rare, and she feels like now.

Literally spent the first five minutes just grinning at Molly being, well, herself. Most people try way too hard with all that fake glossy stuff, but she just flips on her camera and boom, you get the goofy eyes, weird little sticker tattoos, and like, little bits of her messy room. It feels stupidly personal, like FaceTiming a girl you secretly have a crush on and not knowing what she’s gonna show you next. She actually replies too, her messages don’t read like copy-paste, she actually noticed my dog in a photo and asked its name (I swear, that’s not some robot answer).

Her stuff isn’t just endless scrolling of the same post over and over. You get these off-the-cuff photos—whatever mood she’s in, that’s what you get. Sometimes she’s all bouncy and playing with plushies, sometimes she’s just straight up in bed under a blanket, making faces at the camera. It basically never gets boring, because half the time even she doesn’t know what her next post’s gonna be. The dorky sense of humor slips in everywhere, little doodles, silly captions, half-typed rants about nothing important (which sounds dumb but feels kind of cute anyway.)

Frequency’s ridiculous, too. I never get that weird sinking feeling like she’s ghosted, cuz there’s always something new. Sometimes I wake up to a video, sometimes it’s just a blurry pic from her bathroom mirror. She doesn’t overthink it (or maybe she does and hides it really well, who knows), but the randomness feels refreshing compared to all those choreographed wannabe movie trailers you find in most feeds. She looks barely filtered, like maybe even allergic to Facetune. Makes it easier to believe there’s a real person behind the screen, not some influencer bot army.

Weirdly enough, her confidence is what makes the cute stuff even more fun. She acts shy sometimes, but then flips and does something totally chaotic two posts later. Never know if you’re getting sweet or wild. It’s always her, though. No pretending. That’s what keeps me coming back—she feels like someone you could easily joke around with, not just stare at through a screen. I don’t think I’m gonna stop following anytime soon.

First thing that hit me—Madison’s got this wild side that comes out when you least expect it. One minute she’s doing that sweet, bite-your-lip thing, next she’s grinning with one eyebrow cocked like she’s about to dare you into something you’ll regret and love at the same time. Her teasing isn’t just for show, it’s actually kinda personal, like she’s aiming right at you. Gets me every damn time.

Her chats aren’t the regular copy-paste stuff. You DM her and it actually feels like someone’s on the other side who wants to drag you into their fun. Half the time she ends up turning my words against me and suddenly I’m the one blushing on my phone, not her. She’s got a way of making the convo feel private, and that’s rare.

Photos and videos, never lazy. Doesn’t do the over-filtered, same-pose stuff. One day it’s her looking glowy and soft on her sheets, next she’s playful as hell, barely keeping a straight face, and just daring me to say something cocky back. Kinda gets addictive. There’s this mix of “yeah I’m hot and I know it” and “but I’m still having a blast.” Makes it feel like whatever she shares, she wanted to actually do, not just post to keep the feed going.

Sometimes she drops daily content, sometimes she goes a day or two, but when she does send stuff in the DMs, I end up clicking instantly every time. Never the same old, same old. You can tell she enjoys people who talk back and aren’t just creeping silently. If you just want perfect poses, there’s a million girls for that. Madison’s more about pulling you in and turning things up a little hotter, especially if you play along. The whole sweet-but-mischievous thing? Total win. She pulls it off because she doesn’t fake it.

First thing I noticed was how she always pulls that cute half-smile in her pics, the one that looks like she isn’t sure if she should be doing this but kinda totally loves it? I swear every time she drops a pic in those tiny bottoms and knee socks I’m weak, it’s like some shy-girl-next-door fever dream. You can tell she kinda blushes under all the attention and not just pretending either, it feels weirdly real. Which is why I keep checking her page on repeat—she’s so dang adorkable it’s kinda hard not to catch feelings a little.

Not gonna lie, I get nervous sending messages but she actually replies. Not in a copy paste way either, she leaves typos and emojis like she’s talking to her friends. Might be a little obsessed with making you feel special? Anyway, she’ll joke around a bit, gets lowkey flirty, but then swings back to being innocent and bashful like she can’t believe someone called her cute. I fall for it every time. I think everyone’s falling for her tbh.

She posts nearly every day, random stuff. Sometimes it’s a goofy mirror selfie with a tongue out, weird stickers everywhere, or she’s wrapped in some oversized hoodie that barely covers anything. Sometimes she’s all dolled up pouting behind her phone, sometimes she’s messy hair no filter—it just feels honest, not forced at all. She kinda overshares too, which just makes her more likable? Like, she laughs at herself for being awkward and then two minutes later she’s teasing you with bratty captions like she knows she’s got you under her thumb.

There’s never any pressure for crazy stuff you’re not into. She makes shy sexy, which doesn’t sound possible til you see her pull it off. The cute faces, the bratty little comments, the way she never feels full-on scripted. I always end up screenshooting her story captions cause she’s just so good at making you wanna stay. Dead serious, I haven’t found a better mix of actually innocent and lowkey spicy anywhere else. I think she just genuinely likes being kinda shy and kinda a tease and honestly, that’s all I want in this category.

First time seeing Emma with that pink teddy bear, I had to laugh. Who brings a stuffed animal into this sort of thing? But it actually fits her whole deal, somehow. She manages to act all shy and goofy and yeah, very definitely her age, but then just totally flips it on you. One second she’s blushing about something silly, next thing she’s right up close, doing way more than you expected from someone so tiny. I didn’t think I’d care about the winking-at-the-camera stuff but it hits different when she does it.

Her posts show up a lot—like, not the random once-a-week letdown you get from other creators. She’s posting pics and clips almost every single day. Sometimes it’s just her being weird in her room or talking about school or whatever, which makes it even less fake when you realize she’s actually into what she’s doing. (Also, she somehow finds the time for DMs. It’s nuts.)

If you want the realest fresh-outta-high-school stuff, this is where it’s at. Nothing over-produced, no fancy light setups or fake perfect backgrounds. She’ll drop her phone and laugh instead of pretending she meant to do it. Honestly feels like she’s just barely figuring it out half the time, but then the pics still end up hotter than most “pro” stuff anyway. She doesn’t fake the innocent thing either—like, she’s for real inexperienced with a giant side dose of curiosity and zero filter.

Whole thing has this sneaky “I shouldn’t be watching this but damn” feel, probably because she acts so casual and talks about hiding stuff from her parents, then turns around and gets wild on camera. Sometimes she’ll forget to cut something embarrassing out and just leave it up, which is somehow way more interesting than all the girls trying to act cooler than they are. She makes being awkward hot, I guess. Emma’s one of the few doing this category right, just by, I dunno, actually being herself—which makes everything the rest of us want to see way better. Never thought I needed someone arguing with their teddy bear in my feed, but here we are.

The wildest thing is how Haley really does act like she’ll do anything for her “subbies.” I asked for something super specific (well, maybe too specific) thinking I’d get ignored, but she actually messaged back with a little teasing like I was the only guy online. That’s the part that hooked me. She just gets how to make you feel special. It’s not script responses or boring one-liners, it’s just her, being a little bratty and way too cute for her own good.

Whoever said cute can’t be filthy has obviously never stumbled across her. Half the time she’s practically bouncing through her pics, soft lighting, pouty selfies, just enough attitude where you can’t tell if she’s going to laugh in your face or ruin your life. There’s a real girlfriend thing going on here, but like, if your girlfriend actually DID everything you ever hinted at (and then some you didn’t). Sometimes videos hit at midnight, sometimes you’ll wake up to messages you didn’t even ask for (not complaining). It’s chaotic but weirdly personal, like she’s running her phone with one hand and a pink toy with the other.

Her stuff is definitely not boring. I don’t mean it’s wild 24/7, it’s more—she gets creative. She’ll go from a cutesy selfie to straight up triple penetration in like, the next post, jaw dropped me flat. She really knows what “I do anything” means, which is rare honestly. And she doesn’t pretend she’s older than she is. She’s just tiny, real baby face, and isn’t shy about being extra bratty or playful. You kind of end up rooting for her by accident, even while she’s absolutely ruining you.

Free custom when you sign up? Yeah, she actually sends something. I sent a message thinking it’d be a throwaway thing or a recycled pic, but nope—I got a video where she says my name, teases me, and pulls off something that I still think about. Half the reason people go to these girls is for that “I see you” kind of attention, and Haley’s honestly the only teen creator who didn’t half-ass it. Not perfect, sometimes she misses a day or two, but when she’s on, it’s too good. If you like ‘em bratty, real, and not shy about the nasty stuff, she’s the one you’ll regret missing.

I about dropped my phone when I saw her first big smile, messy hair all tangled on the pillow. It’s those sweet, sorta shy looks she gives right before she does something bold—makes your heart pause and you don’t even realize you’re grinning. She doesn’t act like she knows she’s cute. Or maybe she does, but it just reads so real, not all forced. Most girls try to play the part but brooklybby just has it running through her, like she can’t help it. It’s fun in a way that makes you nostalgic about being eighteen and not sure if you wanna laugh or hide under the covers half the time.

She updates more than my own group chats. I like how she doesn’t get all dramatic or fake about it, just posts when she feels like being a little wild or daydreamy. Sometimes it’s teasing, with these soft little stories and notes, like you’re the only one getting them (I KNOW it’s not true but dang if it doesn’t feel that way). When she’s playing all innocent, twirling her hair or peeking over her shoulder, you can see she’s having fun for real. I kinda wish I could bottle up whatever is making her giggle so much and steal a little for myself.

She answers messages with stuff that actually makes sense to what you say, like she’s reading everything. Yeah, I know people say that about every other profile, but she’s different. It’s not quick half-thought replies, she actually puts her personality there, with all the awkward and sweet thrown in that you’d hope for. Sometimes I even blush reading them, and I don’t blush easy. There’s this one time she answered back with a little voice note and I swear I smiled at my phone like a fool for the next half hour.

She stands out because none of it seems like a show. Even when she’s turning up the heat, there’s this bashful, excited look, like she can’t believe what she’s doing—and yeah, maybe I’m hooked on that. Everything’s shot like a sleepover gone slightly sideways, not all polished and planned. She makes the whole “first time opening up” thing real, not just another line someone wrote for her. Honestly, I haven’t seen anyone else nail that mix of sweet and bold without losing the magic. Feels like stumbling into a secret you wanna keep all to yourself, but you can’t stop talking about her anyway.