The first video I saw, she was laughing like she actually wanted to be there, you know? Not faking it, not pretending to love the camera. Looks way more real and raw than I expected, especially with all the extra people involved. Stuff gets wild, but there’s zero awkwardness, just people having fun and loving the messy moments. I kept waiting for it to get boring and it honestly never did—like every post, there’s either a surprise or something hilarious or someone in the background doing their own thing.

One thing that’s nuts is the sheer amount she uploads. New stuff every day, sometimes multiple times. Not trying to pass off old stuff as new either. She switches things up a lot—different locations, different pairings (sometimes more than a few, wow), and a ton of little behind-the-scenes, off-the-cuff clips. You get to see people actually joking around and then jumping into the action. No over-polished edits. Just feels like being invited to the best party and being handed a drink.

I really get why she’s in her own league in the swinger world. There’s no fake exclusivity, no hiding faces in every shot. Actual couples swapping, faces on camera, sometimes you can tell they’re just friends who show up for the chaos. And no annoying paywall move for every little thing—most stuff is just there, which blows my mind after following some of these greedy creators who charge for everything.

If you just want that wild, real-life feel—nobody acting like they’re so above it, just people who can’t keep their hands off each other—this is it. You almost start to recognize some regular guests, like you’re on a first-name basis with half her friends. It’s some of the most zero-shame, fun, crazy swinger content I’ve ever seen. Seriously, I wish more people did it like this.

The first time I scrolled past one of Lena’s posts, I actually stopped and scrolled back like, wait hold on—she’s giving this away? Stuff that most people slap behind a $40 paywall, she’ll just drop right in your lap. The wild part is it doesn’t feel thrown together or cheap either. The quality is insane, like she’s got something to prove about how real swinger content should look. It’s not those blurry quick shots or like, somebody’s phone propped on a lamp in a sad hotel room—we’re talking real production, real people, nobody looking awkward except maybe me clutching my phone.

Lena’s page feels like a private party you somehow got invited to. There’s so much of her and her partner (and okay, often more than just them) just being absolute show-offs, but in the most chaotic-fun kind of way. No weird edits, nobody acting too cool or too posed. It’s honestly a lot more raw than anything I expected. She’s not shy with her comments either, and she actually answers stuff without sounding like a bot. Miss a DM? Not with Lena, she’s on it. I sent a dumb question at like six in the morning and she fired off a reply with a selfie. I don’t even look that alive at noon.

Frequency? She’s all over it. Feels like there’s something new almost every night. Not just random pics either, but whole scenes. Like, multipart stuff that keeps you coming back just to see how much wilder it’ll get. Sometimes you get hit with three updates before breakfast. She doesn’t drag it out or rinse and repeat either, there’s always a new twist, or a new guest, or a location she somehow made sexier than it had any business being. I got whiplash once because I accidentally refreshed and there was a whole new angle, literally.

If you’re into real swinging, messy passion with folks who are in it because they actually love it (not just the cash), Lena kills it. It’s… playful chaos. That feeling of sneaking into the wrong house party, except turns out everyone’s really hot and genuinely having the time of their life. Maybe one day she’ll start charging admission for the stuff she’s tossing out for free right now, but for now, I’m just gonna keep watching like, did I win the swinger lottery or what?

You know that thing where you think you’re probably hard to shock? Yeah, mistressharleyx just laughs at that. First session and my phone practically melted in my hand. She doesn’t do pretending. There’s this wicked, bossy streak running through everything she posts, like she’s your personal ringmaster and you’re the sideshow. If you came for anything halfway, you’re in the wrong place. She pushes, she owns it, then pushes again. Swear, sometimes I nearly lost track of my own safe words and she wasn’t even in the room.

The thing is, it isn’t just wild for the sake of wild. She gets it. Every fantasy—cuck stuff, wallet draining, sissy games—she knows how to twist the knife just right. It’s filthy, smart, and hilarious sometimes too. You end up simultaneously squirming and laughing at how doomed you are. Halfway through a no-mercy JOI clip you realize she’s having more fun than you are, which honestly only made it more intense. Like, who even gives daily customs this sharp and creative? Usually you get the copy-paste routine, but not here. She tailors it right to your dirty, blushing self.

I didn’t even think I liked swinger content that much till mistressharleyx bulldozed every expectation. Sometimes it’s a spicy little three-way scenario, sometimes she’s flexing her mean streak in some group humiliation bit that’ll leave you crawling. The stuff with her and her playmates? It’s not just background noise, it actually feels dangerously real. There are moments you’ll swear she’s about to step out of your screen and yank you into the action by your tie—and you’ll say thank you.

Also, she’s everywhere all the damn time. Daily explicit stuff, surprise voice notes that short-circuit your brain, sexting where you basically forget your name. She doesn’t drag things out or pretend. She commands. If you’re in, you’re in—and honestly, good luck crawling out. Your new addiction starts here. I know mine did.

The first thing that hit me was how payelliex doesn’t bother playing safe or cute. She throws the leash down and expects you to crawl for it. There isn’t that soft, tiptoeing dance like you see with a lot of creators who dabble in kink. She’s swinging the keys to your cage and you damn well know it. I messaged her (nervous as hell honestly) and she just—ran with every dirty thought I gave her and pushed it further. There’s no template here, it feels personal, like a dare and a challenge at the same time.

She’s got this twisted way of making even the ordinary spicy. I tried one of the daily tasks. I don’t wanna get into details but I ended up sweating and giggling while trying to explain why my camera was angled so weird. She’s a genius with humiliation and honestly, she’s hilarious about it too? Never got the sense she was bored or just grinding out content. If she’s in a session, she’s fully there, and you feel it. I’ve never felt more seen or, like, thoroughly used—that’s a compliment.

What makes her stand out isn’t just the dirty talk or the wild menu (it really does cover everything, I swear she’s seen straight into my search history). It’s the way she flips the table on you. She’ll have you wrestling with your pride and wallet in the same breath, no shame, no fake flattery. Some of it’s brutish, some of it’s clever, all of it feels very much her own. She pushes every boundary you thought you had, and she makes you beg for it. The feet stuff? Killer. The strapon clips? Unashamed, almost cinematic. Not the kind of thing you risk watching with your phone on loud.

No ghost town content either. She’s on all the damn time—snipping out custom clips, dropping instructions, answering messages way faster than she should. In a space full of half-assed “exclusive” clips and bored swing couples, payelliex just makes everyone else look lazy. She expects you to keep up, spend up, speak up. If that kind of authentic brat-tamer-queen is what you’re into, you honestly don’t need to look anywhere else.

The first message I got from sugar_kitten1 was wild. It had that “Hi, I’m Nastya! ☀️” sweetness, but what happened after was way messier (in a really good way). She hits you with this combo—nice, glowy, with a halo practically, but then comes out swinging with the filthiest, most inventive stuff you didn’t know you liked yet. That’s her thing. She’ll tease like she’s your innocent next-door angel, then suddenly your brain’s short-circuiting because she just dropped a JOI that’s both so strict and filthy I had to literally pace the room. Nobody does bratty and bossy quite like her.

If you’re into the swinger scene, she’s the real deal. She’s not one of those pretending—they’re clearly actually living what they play with. You get loads of real group play, a ton of authentic couple content, stuff with other creators, swapping, the works. This isn’t that wishy “maybe my boyfriend’s off camera” stuff. No, you’ll see everybody’s face, you get the chemistry, you get the noises, you catch those glances that make it all feel way more like you’re inside it, not just watching a scripted set. It’s damn immersive. Honestly, I’ve never seen her do a boring hookup, they’ve all got this spark that’s impossible to fake.

What hooked me for real was her control kink game. She’s cute as hell, sure, but diabolical with her strap, her feet, her words. She goes from giggling about something dumb to making your imagination her chew toy in like thirty seconds. The sissification clips? Absolute brain melt. Half the time I left a session thinking, should I be thanking her or apologizing? She takes requests but has this deadpan way of setting the rules (not to mention some downright evil edging and tease content).

Stuff lands in my inbox almost daily, always fresh, never just copy-paste. She throws in quick, filthy voice notes, one-off selfies, teasing little missions. It’s so much more personal than basic feed content—feels like she’s running her own fun little kink cult and you’re on the inside. If you want pretty princess with a mean streak, somebody who pulls you all the way into the party instead of leaving you pressed up on the glass, Nastya’s your MVP. You’re not gonna find better in the swinger game, I swear.

First thing you notice with Kaylapufff is that she doesn’t pretend to be too cool or too pro—big difference from all those Overedited Barbie accounts. She’s just out here having a blast with older guys, and she’s bubbly and extra sweet about every second of it. Something about the way she acts all wide-eyed and excited on camera like, every new message really does hype her up, you can’t fake that. I was honestly just expecting the regular, but she got me messaging “oh my god is she actually this excited for real?” because that energy just pops all the way through my screen.

Content’s super fresh and way less cookie-cutter than what I’m used to, especially in the swinger side of things. One night she’s giggling her way through some wild couple collab, the next morning she’s teasing in DMs and hinting at something crazier. She’s way up for pretty much anything her fans suggest, which, you ask me, is rare as hell. Doesn’t matter if it’s more experimental or just classic hotwife stuff, you get that wide-eyed “let’s break the rules” kind of attitude, which is a million times hotter than someone faking it for tips.

Nothing feels staged or recycled. She starts stuff mid-laugh, runs with whatever happens, sometimes loses her place and just shrugs and keeps going. That chaos? Actually makes the swinger content feel alive, like she’s got no script and just lives for how wild it gets. She’s young, yeah, but you see her totally in control and actually steering every meet-up without taking herself too serious, which honestly makes watching her do her thing feel a bit like getting away with something.

She posts a lot too—not just quick teases or disposable selfies. Full scenes, behind the scenes, she’s up for chatting most hours of the day (like, even 2 am sometimes), and always comes off proud to be right in the middle of all the action. If you’re into swing stuff that feels kinda unfiltered and bold, and like, barely legal meets “what if we just try literally everything,” Kaylapufff just nails it.

First hook for me was how Emilia actually answers stuff. Not some tease that disappears for days or just drops a “thanks” and ghosts you. It’s like she saw my request, paused whatever wild thing she was filming, and messaged back like it was the only thing on her mind. That alone? Kinda rare. Anyway, her replies got me all hyped up before I even watched anything.

The whole swinger thing isn’t just for show, she walks the talk. Her videos aren’t stiff or weirdly staged, it’s usually her being bossy or playful (or way too good at both), and everyone’s actually having fun. The femdom and humiliation stuff goes hard, but she somehow keeps it stupid-sexy, like you’ve known her forever. Last custom I ordered? She totally wrecked me in five minutes flat, didn’t even blink. There’s no way that’s her first rodeo.

Scheduling? She’s basically filming something every other day. I always see something new or twisted in the feed and I always feel like I missed a party if I’m not catching up. Every video, Emilia looks straight through the screen, kinda like she’s about to dare you into doing something. Sometimes she really does. And let’s not get started on her JOI setups. I laughed, I, uh, didn’t last long. 10 outta 10 for creative evilness.

What keeps me coming back is she somehow remembers what you like, then adds a messed up twist you didn’t even realize you needed. She’s not shy at all, so it never feels awkward, and there’s zero half-baked stuff in her feed. I keep thinking I’ve seen it all, then there’s another wild idea waiting for me. Best way to sum it up: Emilia’s not just putting on a show. She’s letting you run it, if you dare. Absolutely wild, and probably wrecked my standards for everyone else.

The first thing that hit me was just how much Brianna actually talks to people. Like, real convos, not those generic “hey hun” one-liners. I sent some dumb meme and she actually answered with something funny, not robot cut and paste. It’s wild how a lot of creators act all “personal” but then you find out it’s just their assistant in the DMs. Brianna’s got that chaotic, flirty way of chatting that makes you wanna hang around just for the laughs…and the slightly unhinged spicy bits (in the best way possible, trust me).

If you’re into swingers content, she’s just on her own level. There’s always something new going on in her posts, and it actually feels like you’re hanging out in the front row for her wild life instead of just clicking through staged stuff. I don’t know how she keeps the energy up (caffeine? witchcraft?), but she churns out fresh clips and stories practically every day. It kinda makes you rethink what “fan” even means—feels more like being in her little secret club.

Her B/G content is nuts. Like, not the fake “let’s just pretend this is shocking” routine. She’s got this whole “oops, did I shock you? good” kinda thing working, and she leans into it hard. Sometimes it’s sweet and kinda cute, and the next thing I’m like, I can’t believe I just saw that on my phone at work. I saw her tease a collab with another couple and just the preview alone made my phone overheat. No lies, it’s always wild and there’s always legit swinger vibes running through all of it, never try-hard or awkward, just totally her speed.

My favorite thing is probably how fast she replies if you toss her a tip. Like, she won’t leave you hanging. If you want something weird, she’s up for it—custom stuff actually feels new, not recycled. And there’s no guilt in asking for something super specific. She kinda hypes it up. Half the fun is not knowing if you’re gonna get a spicy selfie or some insane group clip in your inbox next. Feels way less stiff than most creators and way more real. Brianna just gets it. Swingers content actually done right, and she makes it stupid fun.

The first thing that caught me off guard was how damn bold Kayla is. She’s got this total “I do what I want” attitude, like she just turned 18 and someone handed her the keys to a very NSFW kingdom. There’s no shame, just pure let’s-go excitement and a little bit of bratty teasing. Makes watching her stuff feel way less staged compared to most. I couldn’t help but laugh at her little meltdowns when games don’t go her way, then five seconds later she’s undressing like nothing happened. Never a dull second, honestly.

The swinger stuff. That’s where she pulls out the real show-off moves. She’s all about sharing, and not the demure kind. Real “the older the better” kind of swagger. It’s always wild watching someone that seems genuinely hyped about breaking the rules, like she’s just looking for new ways to stir things up. Nobody looks uncomfortable, you can tell everyone’s having a blast and there’s nothing awkward or stiff (well, except for the obvious). Some collabs hit that awkward wall, but her group stuff is super easy to watch, and sometimes it’s downright hilarious how cheeky she gets.

She doesn’t hold back with her messages either, always answering waaay faster than you’d expect. She actually seems curious who’s on the other side, asks stuff and sends pics like she’s texting someone she actually likes. If you’re into that, it feels weirdly personal. She says whatever pops into her head which can get pretty unfiltered, but it never feels forced or fake. Total chaos energy, in a good way.

I still can’t wrap my head around how often she’s posting. Feels like you barely get caught up and boom, there’s a new scene or a bunch of videos she apparently filmed right after some late-night session in her room. There’s all kinds of stuff, mostly wild group clips with whoever she rounded up that week, and she always looks like she’s just having the time of her life. It’s not polished or professional or any of that, but that’s half the appeal. She’s the kind of creator that makes everything feel like a dare, and, honestly, those are the only ones that end up being worth the money.

First time I saw Coralie’s photos, it was all cherries and little winks and I just knew she was for real about the whole swinger thing. She doesn’t play at teasing. She’s all flirty DMs, way too many peach emojis, and then she just drops a pic that has you grinning at your phone like a lunatic. If you’ve dealt with folks who act like swinging is a big secret or just throw up some generic content, forget it. She’s wild and honest. Super playful but also not fake at all. There’s no big show, just her and her tiny tops and her weirdly inviting captions that make you wanna say something stupid back.

She’s always logged on at weird hours. Like, I don’t think this girl sleeps normal. One night she’s baking something and ranting about it on video, next she’s running Q&A about what folks actually want to see and then bam—she’s got a new pic up that is exactly what people ask for. The content updates real quick. I never once waited for days to see new stuff or get a message replied to (unless she was literally in class, which is hilarious).

I’ve seen accounts in the swinger space that just feel all showy, like big production for nothing. Coralie’s the total opposite. She’ll chat about how her day went, then just slip in a wild story about her last date and her boyfriend’s reaction, and it gets you hooked. Sometimes she’ll send something just for you if you aren’t being all weird. Nudes are actually earned around there. I kinda got obsessed trying to be nice enough just for a sneak preview. Makes that whole flirting game way more real and honestly kinda addictive.

She’s got a thing for silly emojis all over her page (her favorite is that weird moon one, I swear), and it makes her look like she’s having as much fun as everyone else. If you want polished, airbrushed stuff, keep scrolling, but if you want some wild, real swinger content where you actually get a chance to not only see but chat, laugh, and honestly get a little turned on, you’ll wanna check her out. Probably shouldn’t blow up her DMs though—she’ll roast you for it.

Mouth dropped right open when Shaye started talking, not kidding. Nobody warns you for that kind of filthy chatter. She’s got that “oops, did I just say that” innocent face while her words are wrecked straight outta a porno. Whole thing just kinda hits you sideways, and it’s very much not for the shy folks. I’d argue half the thrill is watching what comes out of her mouth next, not just the costumes (or lack of costume… let’s be real, she stays naked more than not).

The swinger stuff, though. That’s where she’s queen. Every week there’s new couple collabs, sometimes the same folks drop in, sometimes it’s a new set of playmates. It’s all super real, there’s no weird acting or dumb storylines—just a bunch of people who actually wanna be there and seriously look like they’re having the time of their lives. When she’s with her regular partner, you know they’ve been at this for a while. It’s all natural, no weird cuts or edits pretending to be something it’s not.

Most other swinger pages throw up some awkward group stuff or just spam out recycled clips. Shaye? She’s got angles, playful teases, and oh those post-orgasm giggles that make you want to light a cigarette even if you don’t smoke. And she responds in DMs. Not those AI messages or copy-paste hell. I asked for a thing and I swear, next video she teased exactly what I’d mentioned. Can’t say you get that kind of filth-on-demand from every redhead around.

She doesn’t hold back, doesn’t pretend she’s too cool for you, just throws everything right on camera like it’s no big deal. No joke, if you wanted a front row seat to a filthy swinger party, you’re getting the VIP wristband with Shaye. Best in the game—and yeah, I know what I’m talkin’ about here.

The thing that totally zapped my little brain first was how wild Blair gets right out of the gate. Like, so many pages play it safe for ages, but this girl just straight up doesn’t bother with any “good girl” illusions. She posts what she wants, when she wants, and it’s the kind of real that’s a little scary and hot at the same time. Swinger content? I’ve honestly never seen somebody make it look this unfussy and fun— just a bunch of filthy, sexy adventuring, with no over-edited nonsense or awkward lighting. It always feels like you’re peeking in on something probably illegal in most states and I kind of love that.

She and her man (he definitely pulls his weight, no dead fish guys here) are nothing if not creative. I’ve seen some pages where it’s like, oh look, another forced threeway, but Blair makes every collab feel different. There’s just zero shame and tons of grins. She absolutely loves what she’s up to and it shows. You can tell she actually picked her partners, like, these are genuine friends, or lovers, or both, not just randos tossed in for the camera. It’s got a wild sleepover energy with extra nudity and sometimes, ridiculously pretty lingerie. And then boom, someone’s bent over, no warning, very little talking, just good times rolling out like a runaway cart.

Everybody says “frequent updates” but Blair? I keep hitting refresh half-expecting she’s posted again while I’m still busy with the last thing. There’s regular posts, stories, exclusive stuff that’s straight up bolder than anything you can find for free. And it swings all the ways—MMF, FFM, couples, it’s chaos but like, the good kind you actually want. Blair is always in charge, even when she’s not the one on top. I almost laughed watching one video where she just snatched the camera like okay, momma’s filming now. Queen stuff right there.

There’s a weird, sweet edge to it under the mess too. Between the wet and wild, she’ll toss up a snap eating ice cream topless with a dopey smile, or some quick BTS that looks like your own phone got hacked. She makes being super naughty look like a joke humans were just meant to play on themselves. Some folks scroll for hours not feeling anything, but Blair’s stuff puts me right in the filthiest serotonin headspace. Like, this is why I signed up in the first place, right? Worth every penny, and don’t even start me talking about those customs.

Lilith doesn’t mess around. First thing I noticed, she just oozes confidence—like, actual swagger, the kind that doesn’t try too hard. You hop in and she’s straight to the point, wild but also welcoming? She managed to make me feel like my weirdest kinks were normal stuff, and that’s saying something in this wild corner of the internet.

If you’re into futures where the dom is a little bratty and ridiculous but also super attentive, you’re in for a treat. She’s got this way of threading between casual chat and a full-on tease show, and it honestly feels like playing a game half the time. Every message or pic had her fingerprint on it, you know what I mean? It never feels recycled, none of that stale copy-paste stuff. Not just wild content either, but a real talk vibe, even when she’s bossing you around or just roasting your ego for fun. She’s hilarious when she wants to be. You’ll think “oh, she’s probably just here to cash in” — then boom, suddenly you’re over-sharing your kinks because talking to her is just easy.

Content drops pretty often (not seven days between, either, more like oh hey, something spicy again already?) and it isn’t just the usual thirst traps. I got everything from latex, messy deepthroat, feet stuff, and out-there roleplay prompts, to casual little behind-the-scenes posts. You know she’s building this weird little femdom universe brick by brick, and yeah, it’s chaos sometimes but it never feels fake. Her DMs are wild, too. She replies a lot more than half the people I tried with, sometimes I’d be blown off for a few hours but then bam, she’s there again like nothing happened. Kind of makes it hotter, honestly.

If you’re not into dom stuff or kink, no worries—Lilith’s not snobby about it. She just wants it clear so she can decide how hard to drag you across the carpet, so to speak. The swinger aspect is real, not just some gimmick for clicks. There’s a lot going on with real couples, chaos, and excitement—makes you feel like you slipped into some secret afterparty. If you don’t like sharing or watching, maybe rethink, but if you’re into a little mayhem and being seen, she’s honestly killing the swinger scene. Some people try to fake it, but this one? She’s living it, with a wink and a world-class side eye.

The thing that seriously hit me first? Skylar just looks like she’s having a blast the whole time. There’s this playful, wild charm to her stuff, like she’s the one who always says yes to the wildest plans at the party. I caught one of those girl-on-girl threesomes (barely counts as just three with how much action was going on), and you could just tell no one’s faking it. She’s clearly in her element, running the show but making everyone look good. Felt like I was watching close-up magic that you shouldn’t watch in public if you know what I mean.

She’s also pretty wild about variety. Some creators just recycle the same stuff with different lighting—seriously, I see you—but Skylar mixes it up a lot. One day it’s a five-way, the next it’s her going solo and turning a bottle of lube into an Olympic event. She’s got some sort of obsession with making things messier and filthier than anyone else, in the best possible way. Anal, group stuff, squirting that would require new sheets—she’s just not scared to wreck the place. Honestly, if there’s a world record for getting creative with toys, she’s already broken it and moved on.

Messaging with her is oddly addictive too. I threw her a totally ridiculous fantasy and she just ran with it, cranked up the heat like she was writing fanfic just for me. None of that fake, distant nonsense either—she actually comes off like she’s laughing and talking back at you for real. For this kind of content, the chat makes the whole experience weirdly personal in a good way. You’re not just another username in some endless DM pit.

She’s posting pretty much every day or at least every other day, or sometimes she’ll drop a week of stuff all at once and I end up setting alarms. You’re never left hanging. And she’s not just blasting out promos or half-baked clips, it always feels filthy, fun, and fresh. If you’re into the swinger scene and you want big, real group energy, honestly everyone else is phoning it in compared to her. Skylar makes the whole category look tame.

The first thing that hit me was how quick she replies. I’m talking, you don’t have time to get cold feet. If I blinked too long, I’d have missed her dropping some bratty little comment my way. It’s like dangling raw meat in front of a very willing puppy. I swear, my cheeks still hurt from grinning like an idiot when she told me to kneel (which maybe says too much about me, but whatever). She makes it feel like you’re getting her undivided attention, and that’s rare on sites like this, trust me.

She doesn’t just play the dominatrix game, she runs it. There’s this dominant Mommy thing going strong, but it’s not the corny cosplay you get with some people. She can go from sweet and syrupy, calling you her good boy, straight to ruining you with one text. That whole humiliation and cuckold thing? Fully unlocked. She toys with you, relentless, then flips and gives you a quiet little compliment that sticks in your head for days. Kind of unfair, actually. It messes with you in the best way.

Content is constant. If you actually want to see her with real couples and dudes, not just endless solo stuff, this one’s your girl. It’s always her in the thick of it—sometimes big, messy swinger hookups where she’s definitely calling the shots, other times more personal dom/sub play that gets weirdly intimate. She’s a brunette bombshell, curves in all the right places, big boobs, and you really feel like you’re watching someone who genuinely enjoys fucking with your expectations. Half the clips end and I have no clue if I want to beg or say thank you. Probably both.

Edging, SPH, countdowns, strapon play, all of it. She gets off on making you wait and beg, then pretending to be your sweet girlfriend and absolutely not letting you win. Stuff feels fresh and honestly, a little dangerous. You can tell she’s been doing this for a bit, nothing awkward or forced, but she still keeps things playful. If you’re into messy, dominant ladies who act like Mommy but turn you inside out, you’re not gonna do better than this. I might be a little obsessed, but she started it.